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nbme23/Block 2/Question#44 (reveal difficulty score)
A 4-year-old boy is brought to the physician ...
Dietary change ๐Ÿ” / ๐Ÿ“บ / ๐ŸŒณ / ๐Ÿ“–
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submitted by โˆ—water(47)
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surprisingly, I actually learned this from the Magic School Bus when I was a kid. That's the only reason I got this right. Thanks Ms. Frizzle! :D

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paulkarr  She taught me more than my med school professors did... +6
painintheash5  ahahah i remember that episode! +1
meryen13  I think that cartoon is one of the reasons I'm a medical student! lol +1
sd22  That episode flashed in my head when reading this Q and I thought no way... +



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submitted by โˆ—welpdedelp(270)
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No diet deficiency, the patient had excess carotene due to his diet

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sympathetikey  Would never have thought of that. Thanks +11
medschul  that's messed up dog +24
hpkrazydesi  Excess carotene in what way? sorry if thats a stupid question +
davidw  this is directly from Goljan "Dietary ฮฒ-carotenes and retinol esters are sources of retinol. ฮฒ-carotenes are converted into retinol. (a) Increased ฮฒ-carotenes in the diet cause the skin to turn yellow (hypercarotenemia). Sclera remains white, whereas in jaundice the sclera is yellow, which can be used to distinguish the two conditions. (c) Vitamin toxicity does not occur with an increase in serum carotene" +8
davidw  ฮฒ-Carotenes are present in dark-green and yellow vegetables. +1
hyperfukus  ohhhh hellllll no +7
dashou19  When I was a little kid, I like to eat oranges, like I could eat 10 oranges at once, and after a few days, I could tell that I turned yellow... +8
cbreland  I'm okay with missing this one +4
veryhungrycaterpillar  That was fucking stupid. I've known this excess carotene fact since 8th grade due to a friend getting it, but I still wouldn't have thought of it. I went with anemia, figured it had to be folic acid since B6 would have shown up sooner than four years. UGH. +
an1  Vitamin C def would not occur in vegans and would cause scurvy symptoms. Folic Acid is HIGH in green leafy vegetables, We can assume vegans eat a lot of veggies. As this causes a megaloblastic anemia, the sclera would be expected to be pale. IFN a + ribavirin is used for hep, which is ruled out because of the normal urine and stool, and lack of scleral icterus. B1 def presents with wernickes/ Korsakoff often with excess alcohol intake and hypoglycemia uncorrected after dextrose. B6 presents with sideroblastic anemia + peripheral neuropathy (remember that INH caused B6 to be excreted resulting in neuropathy). I got this wrong. Because who has time to go through every option and think it through, and who thought carrots would make the cut for this test. +1

There's an episode in scrubs the person is orange i looked up "too much carrot" they look orange NBME language strikes again



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submitted by โˆ—alexb(53)
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I guess he's taking B12 supplements, otherwise he would have a symptomatic deficiency, right?

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submitted by โˆ—imgdoc(183)
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Process of elimination using the stem, this kid has no vitamin deficiencies that correspond to his clinical symptoms. Plus his diet was weird to me, so I selected dietary change.

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submitted by โˆ—deberawr(12)
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i got this question right only because when i worked as a med assistant in a derm office before med school, the dermatologist looked at my skin and asked me if i was eating a lot of carrots because my skin looked more orange than usual

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drdoom  and precisely how many pounds of carrots were you eating? +



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submitted by โˆ—syoung07(58)
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yall seent that episode of scrubs where homie eats carrots, peppers and tomato juice? He's orange from his diet and otherwise healthy.

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submitted by โˆ—samsam3711(31)
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I actually think he might have iron-deficiency anemia that can be described as pallor or "yellowing of the skin." He does not have jaundice (anicteric sclera) Patients who are strict vegans can develop iron deficiency. The best way to correct this is to encourage a dietary change

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123ojm  iron deficiency is rare in vegans and vegetarians unless they are also heavily menstruating +



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