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nbme24/Block 2/Question#30 (reveal difficulty score)
A 35-year-old man with small cell carcinoma ...
ACTH ๐Ÿ” / ๐Ÿ“บ / ๐ŸŒณ / ๐Ÿ“–
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submitted by โˆ—neonem(629)
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Small cell carcinoma of the lung may produce paraneoplastic syndromes, of which ACTH and ADH are the more common subtypes. ACTH excess leads to excess stimulation on the adrenal cortex to produce cortisol, resulting Cushing's syndrome. Excess cortisol (normally a stress hormone) causes hypertension via potentiation of sympathetic stimulation on the vasculature. It can also cause hypokalemia by acting as a mineralocorticoid when in excess, saturating the ability of 11-beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (present in the renal tubules) to convert cortisol to cortisone, which doesn't act as a mineralocorticoid.

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therealslimshady  Adding some ways to eliminate the other answer choices for good measure: B) ADH can be secreted by small cell lung cancer (SCLC), and would cause SIADH, but that does not manifest with hypertension or hypokalemia. C) Epinephrine can cause hypertension (a1 effect), and hypokalemia (via stimulation of the Na/K-ATPase), but is secreted by pheochromocytomas rather than SCLC. D) PTHrP does not cause hypertension or hypokalemia, and is secreted by squamous cell carcinoma of the lung, not SCLC. E) VIP can cause hypokalemia through diarrhea (see VIPomas in First Aid), but not hypertension, nor is secreted by SCLC. +10



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submitted by โˆ—drmohandes(193)
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  • SIADH โ†’ euvolemic hyponatremia โ†’ normotensive / hypertensive
  • ACTH increases cortisol โ†’ hypertension (alpha-1 upregulation & cortisol can bind to aldosteron receptors at high concentrations)
  • ACTH increases aldosterone โ†’ hypertension + hypokalemia (K+ dumped in collecting duct)

If patient -only- had hypertension: ACTH more likely than SIADH.

Patient with hypertension AND hypokalemia: 100% ACTH.

Don't feel bad friends, I also had this question wrong :(...

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rolubui  ACTH does NOT act directly on the zona glomerulosa to increase Aldosterone. ACTH acts only on the zona fasciculata to increase cholesterol and zona reticulata to increases sex hormones. +4
rolubui  NOT cholesterol I mean cortisol in zona glomerulosa +
jurrutia  Yes, but cortisol can act as a mineralocorticoid at when levels are super high. +
an1  @rolubui absolutely agreed! UW has a question where they ask about the precuor of aldosterone. I chose ACTH. WRONG they said, it's angiotensin 2. And yet these NBME writes are saying that ACTH is responsible for both cortisol and aldosterone? no. +



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submitted by โˆ—famylife(110)
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To rule out SIADH type: "Serum potassium concentration generally remains unchanged. Movement of potassium from the intracellular space to the extracellular space prevents dilutional hypokalemia. As hydrogen ions move intracellularly, they are exchanged for potassium in order to maintain electroneutrality."

https://www.medscape.com/answers/246650-8383/how-does-syndrome-of-inappropriate-antidiuretic-hormone-secretion-siadh-affect-serum-potassium-levels

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usmile1  Does anyone know if SIADH is associated with hypertension? I don't think it is due to the body's response of downregulating aldosterone, but if someone could verify that I would appreciate it. +
sunshinesweetheart  @usmile1 pg 579 FA 2019 = BP can be normal or high in SIADH +
usmlecrasherss  in SIADH GOLJAN says you have diluteonal hypokalemia +
tyrionwill  SIADH -> excessive ADH -> water retention -> atrium excretes more ANP, ventricule excretes more BNP -> water is excreted more. So that is why not too much plasma volume increment, resulting mostly normal BP. +



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submitted by โˆ—sunshinesweetheart(112)
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epi = pheochromocytoma of adrenal medulla = episodic HTN PTHrP = squamous cell carcinoma of lung (plus others) = hypercalcemia VIPoma = neuroendocrine pancreatic tumor =secretory diarrhea [WDHA (watery diarrhea, hypokalemia, achlorhydia]

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submitted by shiv360(0)
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Aldo is primarily regulated by ATII. Cortisol is primarily regulated by ACTH. However, since cortisol can also activate aldo secondarily, it works. However, I believe that ADH should not have been answer choice however since no lung biopsy findings were reported so we can't really distinguish between SCC vs. NSCLC

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misterdoctor69  the question literally says small cell carcinoma though +



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submitted by โˆ—j44n(141)
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AT-II is the main stimulator of aldosterone release. This is kind of bull shit because that was the answer to one of the other NBME questions in ACTH cushing's disease "wHaT pArT oF tHe GlAnD iSn'T eNlArGed?"

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