NBME 23 Answers : Block 4 : #1 = A 65-year-old man is brought to the emergency ...

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A 65-year-old man is brought to the emergency ...

Thromboxane A2

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submitted by jrod77(21),

I think they might be describing angina...not sure. TXA2 is responsible for platelet aggregation,so it may be contributing to thrombosis, thus ischemia to the cardiac tissue.

sympathetikey Agreed. I'm pissed though because PGE2 mediates pain, which is why I picked it. +15

he.sanchez14 If im not mistaken, the question describes unstable angina. Unstable angina is due to thrombosis with incomplete occlusion. So, yes TXA2 is responsible for the thrombus that is causing the symptoms in this patient. I'm also pissed because I also went straight for the PGE2 +2

vik hahah, seems like all in same boat like me +

yb_26 thromboxane A2 is also vasoconstrictor, so my thoughts were about vasospastic angina +1

shriya goyal same I went for pgE2 ... I M PISSED +1

shriya goyal same I went for pgE2 ... I M PISSED +

youssefa Went for PGE2 ... shit +

need_answers I went for leukotriene B4, what the hell was I doing....SHIT +2

hopsalong I picked Leukotrine B4 thinking that the neutrophil infiltration was the source of the pain, seems wrong lol. +

bballhandler11 Sometimes it helps me to think of it in a general, non med school textbook kind of way. When answering, I narrowed it down to PGE2 and TXA2 as well. Then I asked myself, if someone is experiencing chest pain, would I recommend Aspirin or Advil? That's helped on a few over the counter pharm questions. +3

ususmle same here I M PISSED PGE2 +1

krewfoo99 Maybe PGE2 isint the answer because it mediates pain and fever during episodes of acute inflammation? Thus making TXA2 more likely. +1

djtallahassee ditto on the looked at it for 2 seconds and went PGE2 +

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submitted by asteroides(1),

This is actually describing myocardial infarction I think, from this article: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6485997

We conclude that generation of thromboxane A2 occurs during the early stages of AMI and may be an important pathophysiologic phenomenon in AMI.

Damaged endothelial cells cannot produce PGI1 and prostacyclin => platelets begin to aggregate and release TXA2

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submitted by wheredidbuzzwordsgo(1),

Seems like I did what most of you did. I read the "symptom" as pain and went for PGE2.

Turns out if I had just read the 2008 paper Undiscovered role of endogenous thromboxane A2 in activation of cardiac sympathetic afferents during ischaemia I would have known that TXA2 MAY be a cause of MI pain. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=18483073

There are also theories that the pain is from adenosine/bradykinin/acid/ROS/5-HT which you can read about here:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=10099685 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=10222339 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=11458709 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=12411532

I found these via the UpToDate page Angina pectoris: Chest pain caused by coronary artery obstruction which does say the mechanism is "complex and not entirely understood."

makinallkindzofgainz this is all irrelevant. the dude is having an MI so the answer is Thromboxane A2 +

drschmoctor Bruh, you gotta read all the 2008 papers. It was a fire year for obscure shit you need to know in 2020. +

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submitted by thotcandy(17),

LD4 = vasoconstriction + bronchoconstriction - does it have a role in prinzmetal? I picked this thinking vasospasm due to atherosclerosis.

PGE2 = pain + fever. so i suppose because it's ischemia and not an inflammation, that's not the answer?

TXA2 = PLT aggregation --> thrombus --> ischemia? But i figured that would be more relevant to a stroke or a PE. But I guess TXA2 does play a role in atherosclerosis so it's the biggest contributor.