NBME 23 28.8 (NBME Answers)

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nbme23/Block 2/Question#15 (88.5 difficulty score)
A child with septicemia has an antibiotic ...
28.8🔍,📺
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submitted by wired-in(67),

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lispectedwumbologist That's so infuriating I stared at this question for 20 minutes thinking I did something wrong +76

hyoid ^^^^^ +11

seagull lol..my math never worked either. I also just chose the closest number. also, screw this question author for doing that. +9

praderwilli Big mad +9

ht3 this is why you never waste 7 minutes on a question.... because of shit like this +9

yotsubato Why the FUCK did they not just give us a clearance of 0.1 if they're going to fuckin round it anyways... +18

bigjimbo JOKES +1

cr in ur maths, why did u put 24h/1day and not 1day/24h? if the given Cl was 0.09L/hr/kg. I know it just is a math question, but i´d appreciate if someone could explain it. +1

d_holles LMAO games NBME plays +2

hyperfukus magic math!!!!! how TF r we supposed to know when they round and when they don't like wtf im so pissed someone please tell me step isn't like this...with such precise decimal answers and a calculator fxn you would assume they wanted an actual answer! +1

jean_young2019 OMG, I've got the 25.92 mg/kg/day, which isn't any of the answer choices listed. So I chose the D 51.8, because 51.8 is double of 25.9......I thought I must have make a mistake during the calculation ...... +6

atbangura They purposely did that so if you made a mistake with your conversion like I did, you might end up with 2.5 which was one of the answer choices. SMH +5

titanesxvi I did well, but I thought that my mistake was something to do with the conversion and end up choosing 2.5 because it is similar to 25.92 +3

makinallkindzofgainz The fact that we pay these people 60 dollars a pop for poorly formatted and written exams boggles my mind, and yet here I am, about to buy Form 24 +20

qball Me after plugging in the right numbers and not rounding down : https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/028/539/DyqSKoaX4AATc2G.jpg +1

frustratedllama Not only do you feel like you're doing sth wrong but then that feeling stays for other questions. sucks so baad +

fexx 'here.. take 50mg of vyvanse.. I just rounded it up from 30.. dw you'll be fine' (totally doing this with my patients 8-)) +1

cbreland I was so close to picking 2.5 because I thought I did a conversion error. 5 minutes later and still didn't feel comfortable picking 28.8😡 +

yesa 12ug/ml = 12mg/L; 12mg/L x .1L/hr/kg x 24hr/day = 28.8. No need to multiple numerators and denominators by 1000s +

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submitted by hungrybox(1108),

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tyrionwill When I got 25.9 and found nothing exactly matched, I guessed that the maintenance dose might be a bit more due to the bioavailability. So this antibiotic probably was not an I.V. formula, but an oral one, with a roughly 90% BA. +2

eradionova Well then it could have been equally likely that it had a 50% BA and the answer would be 51.8 exactly. I almost considered picking that but in the end stuck with the one that was closest to my answer lol +2

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submitted by paperbackwriter(123),

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submitted by anechakfspb(53),

In the question they also don't say whether the antibiotic is administered IV or orally. For an IV dose, F = 100%. For an oral dose, F is typically <100% (FA 2019 p. 233). Based on this, IV maintenance dose would be 25.92 mg/kg/day. However, it is possible that the antibiotic is being given orally and F is closer to 90% (just an example). If this is true, the maintenance dose would be 25.92/0.90 = 28.8. This is obviously based on assumptions, but hopefully another way to explain why the answer is not exactly 25.92.

veryhungrycaterpillar Oral antibiotics for septicemia? None of the Step 1 question writers are medical doctors, so this actually makes sense. +1

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submitted by hyperfukus(90),

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faus305 Don't skip it but flag it, give yourself 1 minute and 30 seconds or less to figure it out and if you don't then move on and come back if you have time. Questions like these are what I like to call "time wasters." I got it wrong because I selected 2.5 assuming I made a conversion error when I arrived at 25.9 as my answer. I think the lesson to learn here is that 28 is closer to 25 than 2.5 and NBME are evil people that know I'm not gonna make a conversion error. If you do math in a question and you are SURE you did it write, select the answer closest to the answer your math got you. +

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submitted by isaacyo94(8),

Another weird thing with this question is that if you multiple the actual answer (25.9) by 2, it gives you exactly 51.8. I did that and almost chose D because of it.

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submitted by diabetes(28),

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1g2m=mlLg/12M/ 2 1..000=198 k1/r/h0.m g8g2425.=92 k/yd/gamg t eh saerten wnnears si 82.8

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submitted by docred123(7),

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mousie Equation is Maintenance dose = (concentration at steady state) * (Clearance) if you convert all the units to what it wanted them in (mg/kg/day) you'll get 25.92 like weird-in said above I didn't think to round 0.09 to 0.1 of course so I guessed 2.5 assuming I must have done a conversion wrong and was off by a tenth .... BOO bad Q +4

hyperfukus OMG ME TOO!!!!! +