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A 73-year-old woman has had easy fatigability ...
Failure of conversion of N5-methyltetrahydrofolate to tetrahydrofolate 🔍 / 📺 / 🌳

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submitted by sympathetikey(1535),
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submitted by yex(120),
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misterdoctor69  lmao +  

pic of the methionine/folate cycle:

+2/- hungrybox(1207),

submitted by syoung07(47),
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wdulo eahv nbee aelr tnaeo if teyh rhwte in a pstmn-eerhedyeg nloiptuhre

submitted by lsmarshall(452),
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hlhtoAug so'Chnr amy hvae erucls, ,slfstiau dna ie;edglbn ti uualyls does otn ecuas nroi eeyiicdnfc mineaa adn sha essl lebdnieg hant UC. tutr"Sluacr lmiranateisob of teh etrlinam eimlu, ucsh sa Crnoh idessae adn glirsauc oicn,esrte anc uscae aesddcree oipraonsbt of ainmvit 1"B2. - irstF Adi Gnerael irpscnelPi

submitted by lispectedwumbologist(118),
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yWh dlowu it not be maiean of rcchoin daissee hwti creedesad emusr eiansrtrfrn ctnoein?tocran

lispectedwumbologist  Nevermind I'm stupid as fuck I see my mistake +2  
drdoom  be kind to yourself, doc! (it's a long road we're on!) +21  
step1forthewin  Hi, can someone explain the blood smear? isn't it supposed to show hypersegmented neutrophils if it was B12 deficiency? +1  
loftybirdman  I think the blood smear is showing a lone lymphocyte, which should be the same size as a normal RBC. You can see the RBCs in this smear are bigger than that ->macrocytic ->B12 deficiency +25  
seagull  maybe i'm new to the game. but isn't the answer folate deficiency and not B12? Also, i though it was anemia of chronic disease as well. +  
vshummy  Lispectedwumbologist, please explain your mistake? Lol because that seems like a respectible answer to me... +9  
gonyyong  It's a B12 deficiency Ileum is where B12 is reabsorbed, folate is jejunum The blood smear is showing enlarged RBCs Methionine synthase does this conversion, using cofactor B12 +2  
uslme123  Anemia of chronic disease is a microcytic anemia -- I believe this is why they put a lymphocyte on the side -- so we could see that it was a macrocytic anemia. +4  
yotsubato  Thanks NBME, that really helped me.... +1  
keshvi  the question was relatively easy, but the picture was so misguiding i felt! i thought it looked like microcytic RBCs. I guess the key is, that they clearly mentioned distal ileum. and that is THE site for B12 absorption. +6  
sahusema  I didn't even register that was a lymphocyte. I thought I was seeing target cells so I was confused AF +  
drschmoctor  Leave it to NBME to find the palest macrocytes on the planet. +5  
zevvyt  so i guess size is more important than color cause those are hypochromatic as fuck +  
yesa  The NUCLEUS of a lymphocyte should be the same size as a normal RBC, which is not the case here. Under normal circumstances RBCs are not as big as lymphocytes, so this is truly extraordinary = megaloblastic anemia. +1  
weirdmed51  @yesa you mean ‘macrocytic’. For it to be ‘megaloblastic’ there had to be a hypersegmented neutrophil. +  

submitted by krewfoo99(114),
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lifoc icad ewnh it eertsn eth ybod is ni the romf of tyhttlfdtymraleeharooe HTF( athete) tI tnesdoa tsi ylhemt gpruo ot mtaiinv 1B2 to ceebmo HTF eht( ativec mofr wihhc sa a DAN pos.rrr)euc h eT iimtnva 21B thiw sti emhytl uopgr gseo on to ecnbiom wthi iochteymoen ot rmfo nenmhtoiie.

submitted by sunshinesweetheart(102),
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crcyctoaim aeimna (eens in lobdo sa)mre = CRB eossupcrrr cna gwro tub not dvidie

olva tyaosmcerc nee(s ni doobl )earsm = itacalsleobgm aimean (fi yeth t'ond hswo oituelpnhr eprtg)iotnehnsemay

21B sha nilouorcge msmstypo nda low lhctlneaomiym acid eilwh elafot ciiyfdncee sdoe nto

etaflo si beodrsba ni njemu,ju B12 in emlui

sceau s of 1B2 eccyiifedn = siucrnopei enami,a cgytmtes,ora ealli ti,ercnose ifhs ta,ewprom v aisegnm

)D aufelri fo MTHRF ;g--t& FHT avi( mleftrensareyhtsa = B21 dnecfiyice dan mrcaoyctic iaanem

)B DGP6 deniyifcec = ocnryotcim ubaeces fo cnir RBC tdi;rustocne tp udwol ohws sanulrriatvac soymsiehl sx tiietepdarcp yb na xaievtdio rrtseoss

C) ionoorptrgeonhypp adisxeo diyincefce = irtcocicmy aemani saueecb of low hmee sthnssiye

A) edrc rfanrtinser = hgih inetirrf = ienaam fo cchroni desisea = ocyitcrmci aimane aubcees of low orin

submitted by an1(92),
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sWa atbou ot csohoe dseedecra enfrsinatrr asebecu I cn'udtlo ees hee-edyensrtmgp lnrepsotihu. But EMBN nfteo eitsr to othrw us off with uvega esgai.m So I erad ag.nia uChtga eht l"eaIl ne"stc.oire Iorn tsFi r!Bo uIelm si 21B sntbr.iaoop B21 sslutre in bliemcoagalts e.mania HNMT-F5 si a tsep ni noecrvnigt HDF toin H.TF ntIiidbhe in tlclseboiamag menaia like 12B adn 9B fde.

an1  Also recall, that B12 is stored for many years. so presenting with a def years later (I agree 10 is a jump but still) is an indicator too +  

submitted by unknown001(2),
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ohw ot elru tuo orin .fed ? n rio is debsrabo ni edoemnud dan omixaprl njumeju .

12b ni em.iul

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