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nbme22/Block 3/Question#21 (38.7 difficulty score)
A screening test for cancer is developed and ...
Data point labeled ‘A’🔍
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 +9 
submitted by brise(31),
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sbryant6  SPin and SNout. Specificity in, sensitivity out. +5  



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submitted by adisdiadochokinetic(66),
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jfny21  Here +1  
eacv  yesss! me too -.- +3  
jinzo  me also :( +1  



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submitted by hello(257),
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link981  Excellent explanation but a minor typo. 1-0.99 = 0.01 not 0.10 :) +2  



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submitted by alexb(43),
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 +0 
submitted by amirmullick3(50),

Very easy.
Sensitivity; SnOUT.
Sensitivity is your Y axis, and the higher you go, the more sensitive, which means you can rule OUT cancer.
So A is the least sensitive.

Specificity; SpIN. Specific tests rule out cancer. If your specificity is 1, then 1-specificity would be 0, which is the 0 point of the X axis.




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submitted by seagull(1171),
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brise  The question is asking what point would be the most likely to rule in cancer, and high specificity when positive rules in cancer. The highest specificity value is A, bc the the X axis shows (1-specificity)! +5  
hello  brise is correct. Knowing the LR+ value = 10 does not help in this situation because estimating where "10" should fall on an axis is arbitrary. The way to approach this Q is to know that a high specificity is will mean that a positive result is very very likely to be a true positive. In theory, suppose that the specificity was 0.99. This is 99% specificity. Then, you look at the graph. The X-axis is "1-specificity." So, suppose the best test has a specificity of 99%. Then, calculating 1-specificity = 1 - 0.99 = 0.1. You would then chose the datapoint that corresponds to having an "X-value" that is closest to the origin. In this problem, it corresponds to data point "A." +3